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[Kilroy]

Kilroy, you like minimalist shoes, don't you?
Why yes, I do.
How about minimalist art?
Yeah, sometimes.
Do you like minimalist bikinis?
Depends on who, but yes...
Then this minimalist holster is perfect for you. Buy it.

That was the mental conversation I had with myself right before I bought a Versacarry. For those of you that aren't familiar, it's a very simple holster that is almost like just sticking the gun in your waistband. There's a one-sided plastic guard that prevents contact with the trigger, and a barrel plug that actually holds the gun and keeps everything from moving too much. The entire thing seems to be pretty well constructed, and probably will hide a gun well.
Here's the problem. After opening the package, the instructions specifically say NOT to carry with a round in the chamber, and NOT to carry cocked and locked. Wait, wait, wait. These people sold me a "holster" that I can't actually use for CCW?!? Or did they put that on there for liability reasons? Either way, that's pretty shady, and I am not amused.
What do you guys think? Is there something I'm missing about this design that makes it unsafe for carry?


(pic from thetruthaboutguns.com)

[TCB Firearms]

1- Yes for liability reasons
2- I would not use one if they paid me.
I am not a fan of how it "holds" the gun, attaches to the body and it lacks the strength I like in carrying any weapon that might be used under less than optimum situations. I do not see the little barrel plug surviving an assault leading up to a defensive shooting, or even an aggressive draw.
Depending on the gun...a 1911 could be carried cocked and locked with little to no danger...a glock or non safety M&P, you are begging for an ND.
Somewhere i read a very comprehensive list of one writers concerns but cannot find it now

[Flash]

I've got one that came with a used P238 Scorpion I bought. I found It uncomfortable but not unsafe as the P238 has a safety. As far as what the manufacturer said, remember that most owner manuals say not to shoot reloads or, in the case of Glock, not to shoot lead. It's the lawyers talking.

[Kilroy]

Flash, there is a valid reason you can't shoot lead out of a Glock.

"Lead bullets have varying degrees of hardness that can lead to fouling many different types of barrels in today modern firearms. As opposed to jacketed bullets, that are designed for a more consistent spin and trajectory due to the bullets interaction with the hammer forged polygonal and octagonal barrel rifling, lead bullets have a tendency to drag through the barrel before they ‘catch’ and start their spin motion in the barrel. This single action causes lead residue buildup in the barrel if not properly cared for. Over time, this buildup of residue can reduce the bullet to barrel fit and cause extreme pressure buildup that could cause a catastrophic failure if the barrel is not properly cleaned and cared for. Following the GLOCK recommended guidelines on ammunition usage and the recommended cleaning schedule is required."

Tried on the Versacarry today. I appreciate less bulk, but it doesn't wrap the pistol butt against my side like my other two CCW holsters do. It sticks straight out. Not a deal breaker, but now I no longer have an super invisi-gun. I'll try it a few more times and see how it goes.

[Flash]

Very true, but if you clean your handguns after every 200 rounds or so, the lead doesn't build up. I shoot lead in Glocks all the time, as do other members of my weekly shooting group.

In fact, I you use the proper size and hardness bullets, you'll get little to no lead buildup in the barrel. I've also found this to be true in Kahr Arms polygonal barrels.

[rizzo]

Looks weak, as in wouldn't hold up to daily carry.

Looks easily broken, as in wouldn't hold up to a no shit real world assault.

Looks unsafe, as in doesn't cover the trigger - a holster that doesn't cover the trigger is begging for an ND.

I saw one in a store, messed with it a little to see what the fuss was all about. Not impressed.